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Post by bumbler on Apr 16, 2014 17:49:15 GMT -5
I would like to get unmuted... I would also like to know why I was muted.
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Post by Paranoia on Apr 17, 2014 16:14:54 GMT -5
"Unban Requests - Explain why you should be unmuted, unbanned, etc." --------------------------> "Explain why you should be unmuted"
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Post by bumbler on Apr 17, 2014 17:46:09 GMT -5
I cannot explain why I should be unmuted, because I don't KNOW why I was muted
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Unmute me
Apr 18, 2014 13:58:26 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Paranoia on Apr 18, 2014 13:58:26 GMT -5
Hmm, that's crazy. You definitely should know why you were muted, especially since you had two admins explaining it to you before and after you were muted. But, if you seriously can't think of ANY reason that you would be muted, maybe I can take a whack at it.
Bumbler,
First of all, just so you know, typing is not necessary to be able to race in our server. It's a privilege that, when abused, certainly can be taken away.
You've been playing in Lickity's server for quite some time now...Our rules should be clear to you. Aside from race rules, which you have no issues following, we have other rules in place regarding behavior in the server, particularly involving interactions with others in the server.
We do allow cussing to a certain extent in the server. The 'f' word is frowned upon, and most admins will not allow it. As far as other foul language is concerned, usually as long as it's not negatively directed at another player or the server, it's fine. You tend to break this rule quite often in the server. The final straw that got you text banned was the horribly unnecessary 'f' bomb you dropped while we were trying to discuss things with you.
Another rule you tend to have a problem with is disrespect to fellow racers. Not everyone is on the same skill level as you, Bumbler. You really need to come to terms with that. In school, did you yell at every person who got a "F" on the test when you got an "A"? I'll bet you didn't... I, for one, am very tired of seeing you rag on others in the server. HALO IS A GAME. If you get a bad driver in one game, is it going to affect your next months rent??? Is it going to cause you physical injury?? No...it's unfortunate, but you have two choices. Get out of the hog, and drive yourself or join another, or DEAL WITH IT. Calling the person an 'idiot' or worse is NOT your place, nor is that acceptable behavior in Lickity's server. Everyone was a "noob" at some point in time (even you!). Give people time to learn and adjust.
Now, for the "racism" issue...I've tried many, many times to explain this to you. It is unacceptable to come into Lickity's server and use the term 'Mexicans' in a derogatory form. "Stupid Mexicans", "laggy Mexicans", and the like will never be seen as "ok" when you play in Lickity's server. ELSEWHERE, I don't care what you say, but in Lickity's, keep your comments of that kind to yourself. We have Spanish-speaking players that frequent our servers, and they do NOT deserve to be talked about in such a manner. Keep your generalizations to yourself in Lickity's server.
Also, in general, we don't appreciate excessive negativity in our server. When people come in and complain about every little thing, every player, every map, every feature, every lap, etc., it drags everyone down. You have a tendency to be so negative... I'm sorry if your life really is that terrible, but please...don't spread your misery. Keep your complaints and negativity to yourself. If you ever have a legitimate issue with someone or something in the server, we'll be more than happy to address it if we can.
Aside from your mouth (or fingers??), we have no issue with you playing in our server, hence why you were text-banned and not completely banned.
I hope you read what I've said here very carefully, and I hope you will now take a few moments to explain why you feel you DESERVE to be un-muted in Lickity's server. That is the purpose of this area of the forums: first, to determine if the ban was appropriate (and I think it's now obvious that yours very much was appropriate), and second, to determine if the ban should be lifted.
For the record, I am not the one who text-banned you, although I was the one who muted you earlier that day. I cannot remove the text-ban. I just didn't want there to be any question in your mind of why your typing privileges were taken away in Lickity's server.
Your move, Bumbler. I recommend you choose your words wisely...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 14:24:20 GMT -5
I cannot explain why I should be unmuted, because I don't KNOW why I was muted On 2014/04/16 17:01:54 you dropped the f-bomb yet again (not the euphemism) and were subsequently text banned. Despite repeated attempts persuade you to follow the rules via rule spams, kicks, mutes, forum private messages, months and months worth of effort ... you continue to use foul language. Bumbler, it doesn't matter what alias you use... you still have to follow the rules.
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Post by bumbler on Apr 18, 2014 14:45:26 GMT -5
I am very familiar with the rules of this server. Which is why I was confused when I got muted, because I had no idea what I was being punished for.
First of all... I did not say anything close to "stupid mexicans" or "laggy mesicans" on this server. I did mention them if I remember correctly, but not in any derogatory way, because I'm aware of the rules regarding behavior on this server. If I genuinely did offend anyone with a racist remark, then I'm sorry, because it was not my intention to offend or to hurt anyone's feelings.
Regarding the guy that was driving me... I was simply joking with him. I think I was given a temporary mute for saying "Oh god not this guy" or something, and I definitely think said punishment was rushed and baseless... because the guy who was driving me, who I had previously talked to, understood immediately that I was messing with him. He laughed in vehicle chat, in other words, he was in on the joke... many admins have made likely remarks, when I'm on their team, making fun of my driving/gunning, and I'm in NO WAY offended by such remarks, in fact I take them as a joke and laugh, and perhaps include a retort or two, but I know they are just messing with me and having fun... and if they are not, I simply don't care, like you said, this game is not going to affect my physical or mental well-being... I'm just here to have fun. And I do.
I was not aware "negativity" was beyond the rules of this server. When I say I dislike a map or a game mechanic, I'm simply offering my opinion. I know that there is another medium for suggestions (this forum) besides game chat and I have used it. If mentioning your distaste for a map is against the rules, just inform me (and the many others that do the same thing) and I'll simply stop doing it.
I would like to be unmuted because I like interacting with the drivers in this server. If I offended anyone, it was not my intention, or if it was, I regret doing so and hope you understand that I am sometimes a horribe teammate (and person) and I guess I should work on keeping my mouth shut sometimes.
What really pisses me off the most is the inconsistency with which rules are applied in this server. The day I got muted, a couple others got muted too for what I think are completey stupid and unfair reasons. I'm no one to judge seeing as I have virtually no influential power in this server. But lots of people were insulting and were "rude" and got at least three warnings before action was taken. While I was given none. And an admin whose name I won't mention went into a full caps, multiple line rant on a player for absolutely no reason, before muting him. If you want me and other players to respect your rules, then at least make them, and yourselves, respectable. I think that what said admin did was way more serious and offensive than joking around with a driver's skill. But anyway... I've apologized and I take full account of my actions and hope I get unmuted.
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Post by Anoobis on Apr 18, 2014 16:52:56 GMT -5
Hi Bumbler,
It looks like you read Paranoia's reply thoroughly. I would like to commend her for giving you an excellent explanation.
Now onto the good stuff. I would like to address some of your comments so there is no confusion in the future, for everyone.
Maybe further comments like this should be conveyed in hogchat moving forward; like he did. This would have, most likely, averted the mute. The written word differs from the spoken language, agreed. So when we see comments like you used it makes our job more difficult....determining intent.
I think this is self-explanatory. Meaning now you know that we disprove the negative comments pertaining to maps, features, abilities, etc...
I think the inconsistency you are referring to, for the most part, has to do with our Polite rule. This is something that we have discussed at great lengths because this rule is highly subjective and the discipline carried out is just as subjective...hence the inconsistency among admins. Unfortunately we do not see this changing anytime in the future. I would be glad to discuss the details of this in a PM.
That being said, we will remove the textban. However if you violate the rules again the same actions can/will be taken.
Side note....
We want you on the server having fun. We enjoy your presence! Again I invite you to our TeamSpeak server so we can explain anything you feel is still gray. Plus it adds an entirely different element to the game...and saves on typing because you can "speak" to others.
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